Interview 234a : In this interview in front of an audience at the Pinewood Park Apartments with Dickie Dixon and Reverend Bettie Kennedy, Emma Jones Callager talks about her childhood going to school in Lufkin, her experiences with her Ingram family relatives, and her work at her church, Long Chapel CME Church in Lufkin. She also discusses the Black church choirs, the years she spent teaching, her daycare center, Manning and Ewing schools, and her travels. She particularly mentions Will Ingram and several houses he built, the Hackneys, and other African American community leaders during segregation.